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things in brown paper wrappers -- [laughter] >> lives under a rock. >> 1627 i street northwest, suite 700. [laughter] >> other questions? yes. questions over here. >> quick question, mr. horton. i was wondering -- [inaudible] pretty much agree with everything that you said. i was really surprised, though, to hear you characterize bradley manning as not a whistleblower. i was wondering if you felt the same way about daniel else burg. and mr. ellsberg thought it was pretty hard to distinguish between the two of them. >> yes, he has said that and, in fact, i publicly disagreed with him once. no, i think a whistleblower is disclose you are specific -- disclosing specific information that he's found that relates to some wrongdoing or something that the public urgently needs to know. and what bradley manning was doing was just global. it was all the confidential cable traffic that he was able to access. he was turning over. so that's really not the sort of filtering and not the sort of motivation that i associate with a whistleblower. i think, by the way, the one major unexplored question conce
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